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Postby SuZ61 » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:35 pm

They wouldn't stand behind their deals anyway, they have their own agenda.
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Postby pvtjoker » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:49 pm

exactly...and we'll have to go through this shit next year...
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Postby CG » Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:17 pm

I don't know, Joker. I kinda like the idea that the leader of our country
care about our opinions, for, against, and everything in between. Do you
find me niave to want such? Just curious . . . Or should I just be glad
he takes charge, no matter my concerns, yay or nay?
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Postby pvtjoker » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:55 am

Do you find me niave to want such?


yes..I find that naive...
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Postby CG » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:57 am

[font=Comic Sans MS]alrighty then[/font] 8)
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Postby SuZ61 » Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:20 pm

They only care when there are upcoming elections...no matter what party they are from.
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Postby Nodachi » Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:06 pm

Bush doesn't care because he doesn't have to, no re-election to worry about.

Jumping subjects a little bit, a lot of people say that we need government reform. While I'd agree that there do need to be some changes, I think we need political reform even more.

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Postby pvtjoker » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:04 pm

I think more could be done with campaign reform or term limit restrictions...
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Postby CG » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:12 pm

[font=Comic Sans MS]In my heart of hearts, I do not believe things will improve, per say. Get
interesting, uglier?, yes. :cry: Politics will only get dirtier, slimier, more decay
within/without. Political reform is a must, but, do you think it will ever
come about? Seems to me, the Republicans and Democrats have called
closeys on the game, ever so long ago, and no one else can come close to compete. :evil: Citizens do not have equal weight; candidates have totally unbalanced resources; campaign dialogue, distorted; and true deliberation uncommon, right? Come election day, the workings of public opinion are supposed to interlock with the apparatus of government, so that citizens can control the whole mechanism. Yet, in privately funded campaigns, a different kind of coupling occurs and public opinion hardly forms on most issues; it certainly doesn't set the course of political events, no. True, the market works the political system? Each citizen gets one vote, dandy!, but a market assigns power in proportion to wealth. So, damn it all.[align=justify]
Or am I wrong, here then?[/font]
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Postby CG » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:15 pm

pvtjoker wrote:I think more could be done with campaign reform or term limit restrictions...


[font=Comic Sans MS]I couldn't agree more !!![/font] 8)
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Postby pvtjoker » Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:29 pm

Iraq was a must I think


Iraq is important for two reasons...oil and a military staging ground...the tension between Arab and Jewish has been a source of concern for 90 years (about the time of the Balfour Declaration) and the creation of Israel 60 years ago did nothing to help this tension...the US and BG being the two major countries involved in both of the afore mentioned...King Abdullah warned of this coming storm in an article in The American Magazine in November 1947...in the final paragraph he talked about the newly created State of Israel...



The crisis is too stark for mere polite vagueness which means nothing. I have the most complete confidence in the fair-mindedness and generosity of the American public. We Arabs ask no favours. We ask only that you know the full truth, not half of it. We ask only that when you judge the Palestine question, you put yourselves in our place. What would your answer be if some outside agency told you that you must accept in America many millions of utter strangers in your midst "enough to dominate your country "merely because they insisted on going to America, and because their forefathers had once lived there some 2,000 years ago?

Our answer is the same.

And what would be your action if, in spite of your refusal, this outside agency began forcing them on you?

Ours will be the same.




Now back to Iraq...Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (President of Iran) has been facilitating these Arab / Jewish tensions over the last couple of years by refusing to stop the nuclear program of Iran...describing the Holocaust as a "myth"...and calling for Israel to be "wiped off the map"...and Iraq will possibly serve as a staging ground for US military operations against Iran to protect Israel...and by protecting Iraq's oil interests we can secure uninterrupted oil supplies to the US during this time...
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Postby CG » Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:26 pm

say we didn't go into Iraq but continued the search for Osma.
Where do you think we would be now, had it never happened. I've
wondered about that. Sadam right where he was, where in the world
would we be?
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Postby CG » Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:27 pm

In what state of affairs and within the worlds standings?, to be more
clear about my question.
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Postby pvtjoker » Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:08 am

but continued the search for Osma


we're still searching for Osama...
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Postby CG » Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:13 am

I know. Can't believe he's still out there.
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